================================================ Subject: [ Creed Discuss ] 12 Stones issues... From: Jen Hessenthaler To: Creed Discuss Temporary Replacement Date: Sun 06 Jun 2004 18:10:53 -0500 ================================================ Well I guess that makes me feel better. I wasn't really upset with them when that happened, I was just disappointed. I felt that "friendship" (their words before my own) we developed slipping quickly away. It's been 10 months since I've spoken to any of them. I do need to get back into the chat room and keep in touch with Gail and Tony. I've got (another) new computer though, and need that download from you again. I'll get in touch with you directly for that. But I have to side with Paul here and say that this new tour isn't going to make it any easier to interact with them. And despite the fact that I know they mean well, it makes me sad. They've made much more of an impact on my life than Creed ever could. I was going through one of the most difficult periods of my life, and befriending them made me feel so full of life again. The message of their music, and the love they show their fans makes them a group of people equal to none, in my eyes. *sigh* Ah to return to the days of driving all week to see them in 3 different states, and going to mancow's studio with them while they played on the air, and then racing them to Moline that same day...I miss them so much. In fact I can honestly say that I wouldn't be who I am today if it weren't for them. There are several important facts, which I won't get into here, that changed my life dramatically, and it's because of them. I just wish I could tell them that. But the days of opportunities to do so appear to be over. Now I'm REALLY sad. Between Creed, Reagan, D-Day (which I'm particularly emotional about because of living near the Normandy beaches and visiting often), the anniversaries of 5 important and rather painful days in my personal life approaching in less than 2 weeks, and now bringing up 12 Stones...I should just go to bed and stay there for a while. Sorry to be a downer. Jen ----- Original Message ----- From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" To: "Creed Discuss Temporary Replacement" Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Fw: SCOTT STAPP AND MARK TREMONTIREADYNEWMATERIAL FOR FIRST POST-CREED RELEASES > They're still focused on spending time with the fans, but this last tour has > had them so packed with scheduled dates so far apart that they have been > having to cut a LOT of M&G's short, or have had the bus driver or tour > manager cut it out altogether. > Tony was saying the other day that Paul was in a cross-over between excited > that they got the spot on the Nickelback/3DD/PuddleOfMudd tour, and > concerned that such a tour would not allow much time to interact with the > fans. > You know Tony and Gail though... the last thing that Paul would ever do > before getting his gallbladder removed through his nasal passage by Tony > would be to forget the fans. > Paul was talking about one show where they had to skip the M&G because of > the time they lost when the bus broke down, and how he wanted to get a > second show on the schedule for that town just because he felt like he still > owed the fans there something. That has to say something for the guilt he > feels when he can't chat and hang out after the show. > I think in this case, we have to lay blame on crammed scheduling and a "lets > haul ass" bus driver. > Speaking of Tony and Gail though, we still miss seeing you in the chat room, > Jen. You should pop in some night and say hi. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jen Hessenthaler" > To: "Creed Discuss Temporary Replacement" > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Fw: SCOTT STAPP AND MARK TREMONTI > READYNEWMATERIAL FOR FIRST POST-CREED RELEASES > > > > Speaking of 12 stones...I was rather disappointed when I saw them in March > > at House of Blues in Chicago. Mostly I think it was the lack of > Kevin...but > > they also never came out to say hi to the fans. That is the first time in > 2 > > years of seeing them (I can't even remember the number of times now...12 > > maybe?) that I didn't get to spend at least half an hour hanging out with > > one or the other of them. Okay, excluding the first time I saw them, when > I > > met them but we didn't hang out. I left with the sinking feeling that > > they're becoming an untouchable band. I've dreaded that moment. I > haven't > > really been enthusiastic about them since. And I'm so so very sad about > > Kevin leaving. He was one of the most amazing people I've ever known. He > > always kept everyone laughing. > > > > What do the rest of you who've seen them lately think? > > > > Jen > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "]\\[][G}{T§TÖ®]v[" > > To: "Creed Discuss Temporary Replacement" > > Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 11:42 PM > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Fw: SCOTT STAPP AND MARK TREMONTI > > READYNEWMATERIAL FOR FIRST POST-CREED RELEASES > > > > > > > I was thinking "Wind-Up". Since 12 Stones have their second album > coming > > > out soon, and the label has a few major bands now (even though the lead > > > singers to 2 of them are worse than Stapp was), may as well focus on the > > > whole lot... dontcha think? ;) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lee Reed" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 12:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ Creed Discuss ] Fw: SCOTT STAPP AND MARK TREMONTI READY > > > NEWMATERIAL FOR FIRST POST-CREED RELEASES > > > > > > > > > > my husband called me at work with the news...can't say i was > surprised, > > > but > > > > yeah, it makes me sad too...i vote we keep the name 'creedlisters' and > > > throw > > > > our support behind alter bridge...considering who the band members > are, > > > i'm > > > > pretty sure the music's gonna be great...end of an era? sure, but > it's > > > the > > > > beginning of a new one too... > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Jen Hessenthaler > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Well I suppose we all knew it was coming. I'm feeling kind of sad. > I > > > > >don't know about the rest of you, but they sure have impacted MY > life. > > > And > > > > >they're the reason I've met so many wonderful people (including, but > > not > > > > >limited to: Tara, Scott, Lee...). This feels like the end of an era. > > > > > > > > > >So what do we do now? Are we still the Creedlisters? Now that I've > > read > > > > >that, it sounds like a stupid question. There are still plenty of > fans > > > who > > > > >hold on tight to bands that are long gone. > > > > > > > > > >Okay, I'm sadder now. > > > > > > > > > >Jen > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@creedlisters.com > http://lists.creedlisters.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@creedlisters.com http://lists.creedlisters.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss